A new history textbook for Ukraine. What should it be like? (I. Shchupak's webinar with V. Dribnytsia, part 1) (21.02.2024)
The first part of a webinar by historian Ihor Shchupak (director of the “Tkuma” Ukrainian Institute for Holocaust Studies, head of the team of authors of the new textbooks) with Vitaliy Dribnytsia, devoted to a new history textbook of Ukraine for the 7th grade. The conversation includes a terminological block (the difference between fascism, Nazism, and nationalism), an analysis of the components of “rashism,” and a rebuttal of Russia’s appropriation of the history of Rus’ (the Greek “Hellenism” of the name, the “Rurikid” myth, Novgorod as the “first capital”).
Key moments
- 12:15 How Nazism differs from fascism; the definition of fascism is blurry
- 13:03 Italian fascism without racial antisemitism; there were Jews among the fascists
- 14:02 Nazism: racial theory, anti-communism, antisemitism
- 18:15 Nationalism: 15+ varieties; the core idea is achieving an independent state
- 19:44 Constructive nationalism vs chauvinism vs great-power chauvinism
- 23:42 Components of "rashism": Orthodox messianism, imperialism, restoration of the Soviet
- 31:03 "Hellenism": Rus' → the Greek "Russia"; when the history of Russia begins
- 36:07 Ivan III's titulature: "prince of Rus'" as a claim; Kyiv appears in the list only much later
- 38:11 Self-designations change: the "Lithuanians" (lytvyny) are today's Belarusians
- 42:18 Novgorod could not have been the capital: its cultural layer is no earlier than the 930s
- 44:02 The "Rurikid" dynasty did not exist; the chronicles name the Olehovychi, Ihorevychi
- 47:53 Cross-checking against parallel sources; from Ihor onward the princes are historically reliable